# Importing from Engine DJ I get the grid shifted compared to the original one

**URL:** <https://discuss.lexicondj.com/t/importing-from-engine-dj-i-get-the-grid-shifted-compared-to-the-original-one/1850>\
**Category:** Engine DJ\
**Created:** [November 3, 2023, 11:34am UTC](https://discuss.lexicondj.com/t/importing-from-engine-dj-i-get-the-grid-shifted-compared-to-the-original-one/1850 "2023-11-03T11:34:54Z")\
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**Author:** ![djaj\_it](https://discuss.lexicondj.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/d/bc79bd/32.png) [@djaj\_it](https://discuss.lexicondj.com/u/djaj_it)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2023, 10:16am UTC](https://discuss.lexicondj.com/t/importing-from-engine-dj-i-get-the-grid-shifted-compared-to-the-original-one/1850/41 "2023-12-11T10:16:14Z")

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> [@Christiaan](#):
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> that is because the cue is below zero in Engine

It might be a little below zero, but this is also allowed in EDJ, in fact on the console HotCue 1 is visible and functional.

> [@Christiaan](#):
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> The grid does start below zero (that is allowed in Lexicon) which is why it is off a bit.

Ok but if the sub-zero cue is allowed for both EDJ and Lexicon, then why does Lexicon move it forward? It could place it exactly on the ZERO position even if we do not obtain the same starting result taken from the EDJ library.

And also why with Lexicon Beta do I get the addition of all those **red CUEs** that don’t exist?

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**Author:** ![Christiaan](https://discuss.lexicondj.com/user_avatar/discuss.lexicondj.com/christiaan/32/10_2.png) [@Christiaan](https://discuss.lexicondj.com/u/Christiaan)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2023, 10:57am UTC](https://discuss.lexicondj.com/t/importing-from-engine-dj-i-get-the-grid-shifted-compared-to-the-original-one/1850/42 "2023-12-11T10:57:55Z")

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You have 2 options: move the cue forward to exactly zero or don’t show the cue at all.

Engine may allows cues below zero, but I question what use that is. It won’t be able to play them before zero, so activating them will effectively play them at zero.

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**Author:** ![djaj\_it](https://discuss.lexicondj.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/d/bc79bd/32.png) [@djaj\_it](https://discuss.lexicondj.com/u/djaj_it)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2023, 5:22pm UTC](https://discuss.lexicondj.com/t/importing-from-engine-dj-i-get-the-grid-shifted-compared-to-the-original-one/1850/43 "2023-12-13T17:22:28Z")

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> [@Christiaan](#):
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> Engine may allows cues below zero, but I question what use that is.

I have some tracks that have Cue 1 set even 1 or 2 beats behind the start of the track. I use that solution when the track does not start correctly and the 4 complete bars are not respected, therefore in order to correctly align two tracks with the CUE you have to start the second track a little earlier so that when the track starts playing it is aligned with the 4 bars of the first track. I hope I have explained myself.

> [@Christiaan](#):
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> You have 2 options: move the cue forward to exactly zero or don’t show the cue at all.

OK! But, repeat:

> [@djaj\_it](#):
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> why with Lexicon Beta do I get the addition of all those **red CUEs** that don’t exist?

🤔

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**Author:** ![Christiaan](https://discuss.lexicondj.com/user_avatar/discuss.lexicondj.com/christiaan/32/10_2.png) [@Christiaan](https://discuss.lexicondj.com/u/Christiaan)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2023, 5:59pm UTC](https://discuss.lexicondj.com/t/importing-from-engine-dj-i-get-the-grid-shifted-compared-to-the-original-one/1850/44 "2023-12-13T17:59:23Z")

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That was a new bug, try the latest beta

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**Author:** ![djaj\_it](https://discuss.lexicondj.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/d/bc79bd/32.png) [@djaj\_it](https://discuss.lexicondj.com/u/djaj_it)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2023, 8:19am UTC](https://discuss.lexicondj.com/t/importing-from-engine-dj-i-get-the-grid-shifted-compared-to-the-original-one/1850/45 "2023-12-16T08:19:39Z")

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I used the latest beta (1.5.113). I imported the library from Engine to Lexicon from scratch.  
Result: **There are still some MP4 tracks with misplaced grid.**  
Among the various tracks with a shifted grid there are also the tracks that I sent images in previous posts, so it is useless for me to send the same images again.  
The red hot cues have disappeared. But the grids are wrong, so we went back to the initial problem. 😤 😱

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**Author:** ![Christiaan](https://discuss.lexicondj.com/user_avatar/discuss.lexicondj.com/christiaan/32/10_2.png) [@Christiaan](https://discuss.lexicondj.com/u/Christiaan)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2023, 2:45pm UTC](https://discuss.lexicondj.com/t/importing-from-engine-dj-i-get-the-grid-shifted-compared-to-the-original-one/1850/46 "2023-12-16T14:45:01Z")

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> [@Importing from Engine DJ I get the grid shifted compared to the original one](https://discuss.lexicondj.com/t/importing-from-engine-dj-i-get-the-grid-shifted-compared-to-the-original-one/1850/20):
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> I’m updating Lexicon today and that MP4 beatshift should be fixed. But it’s a weird one as there are other MP4s that need a different shift and I don’t know how to detect those yet. So this may change in the future again… Very annoying

I can’t fix it for all MP4s

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**Author:** ![djaj\_it](https://discuss.lexicondj.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/d/bc79bd/32.png) [@djaj\_it](https://discuss.lexicondj.com/u/djaj_it)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2023, 6:17pm UTC](https://discuss.lexicondj.com/t/importing-from-engine-dj-i-get-the-grid-shifted-compared-to-the-original-one/1850/47 "2023-12-16T18:17:40Z")

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So what should I do? Every time I import the library from EDJ, should I check all the MP4 tracks for those that have the grid shifted? 😱 😲

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**Author:** ![Christiaan](https://discuss.lexicondj.com/user_avatar/discuss.lexicondj.com/christiaan/32/10_2.png) [@Christiaan](https://discuss.lexicondj.com/u/Christiaan)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2023, 6:44pm UTC](https://discuss.lexicondj.com/t/importing-from-engine-dj-i-get-the-grid-shifted-compared-to-the-original-one/1850/48 "2023-12-16T18:44:32Z")

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Honestly I don’t know… Are these video files? If not, maybe convert them to mp3…

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**Author:** ![djaj\_it](https://discuss.lexicondj.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/d/bc79bd/32.png) [@djaj\_it](https://discuss.lexicondj.com/u/djaj_it)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2023, 2:12pm UTC](https://discuss.lexicondj.com/t/importing-from-engine-dj-i-get-the-grid-shifted-compared-to-the-original-one/1850/49 "2023-12-17T14:12:57Z")

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> [@Christiaan](#):
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> Are these video files?

No. They are audio files in MP4 or M4A format. They have better quality than MP3 for the same file size.

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**Author:** ![djaj\_it](https://discuss.lexicondj.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/d/bc79bd/32.png) [@djaj\_it](https://discuss.lexicondj.com/u/djaj_it)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2023, 2:29pm UTC](https://discuss.lexicondj.com/t/importing-from-engine-dj-i-get-the-grid-shifted-compared-to-the-original-one/1850/50 "2023-12-17T14:29:23Z")

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@Christiaan With beta 1.5.114 this problem is not resolved. 🤷‍♂️

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**Author:** ![Christiaan](https://discuss.lexicondj.com/user_avatar/discuss.lexicondj.com/christiaan/32/10_2.png) [@Christiaan](https://discuss.lexicondj.com/u/Christiaan)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2023, 2:35pm UTC](https://discuss.lexicondj.com/t/importing-from-engine-dj-i-get-the-grid-shifted-compared-to-the-original-one/1850/51 "2023-12-17T14:35:27Z")

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I haven’t made any changes there

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**Author:** ![djaj\_it](https://discuss.lexicondj.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/d/bc79bd/32.png) [@djaj\_it](https://discuss.lexicondj.com/u/djaj_it)\
**Post date:** [December 26, 2023, 8:52am UTC](https://discuss.lexicondj.com/t/importing-from-engine-dj-i-get-the-grid-shifted-compared-to-the-original-one/1850/52 "2023-12-26T08:52:56Z")

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I discovered something, if it helps with this problem: the shifted grid only happens after importing MP4/M4A tracks from Engine DJ. Instead, if those traces are analyzed by Lexicon, they obtain a perfectly aligned grid. 🤷‍♂️ 🤷‍♂️

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