# Lexicon with Rekordbox 6 write support
**URL:** https://discuss.lexicondj.com/t/lexicon-with-rekordbox-6-write-support/143
**Category:** Discussion
**Created:** [February 5, 2022, 1:18pm UTC](https://discuss.lexicondj.com/t/lexicon-with-rekordbox-6-write-support/143 "2022-02-05T13:18:31Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
**Page:** 1
### Author:  [@Christiaan](https://discuss.lexicondj.com/u/Christiaan)
#### Post date: [February 5, 2022, 1:18pm UTC](https://discuss.lexicondj.com/t/lexicon-with-rekordbox-6-write-support/143/1 "2022-02-05T13:18:31Z")
Here are the first test builds with support for writing directly to the Rekordbox 6 database. Bye bye XML!
## Usage
Simply select Rekordbox 6 from the Sync page. There’s nothing else to it.
### Backups
**Obviously backups are more important than ever!** Lexicon already automatically backs up your Rekordbox database but it certainly can’t hurt to do it yourself as well.
These files are backed up:
Windows:
`C:\Users\user\AppData\Roaming\Pioneer\rekordbox\master.db`
Mac:
`/Users/user/Library/Pioneer/rekordbox/master.db`
`master.db` is everything except beatgrids.
To restore a backup, just replace the `master.db` file with the one from the backup file.
## Limitations
- Turns out there is a fun limitation in RB where there is a max of 4 MyTag categories and any beyond that do work in the sidebar but are not usable in an intelligent playlist or in the track filter. Lexicon automatically works around this. If you have 4 categories or less, then they will get synced as you would expect so you get the full normal experience. If you have more than 4, all your tags will get merged into one “Lexicon Tags” MyTag category. This keeps intelligent playlists working, but you lose the advantage of the AND/OR filters in RB. So you can choose which approach you want.
## Download
No longer available
## Changelog
2022-02-07
- Fixed the value below zero bug
- Now properly deletes unused playlists on a Full Sync
- Minor other adjustments
2022-02-10
- Fixes a bug that caused Tidal tracks to be duplicated and invalid in RB6
- Stability improvements to the RB6 exporter
- Now deletes unused beatgrid data and artwork jpg files on Full Sync
- Fixes a bug where the progress would be visually stuck on 0%
- Fixes a bug where the exporter would error in a specific MyTag situation
2022-02-17
- More stability improvements
- Performance improvements
- MyTag export change: if there are 4 LXC tag categories or less, they are exported as-is. If there are more than 4, they are all merged into one “Lexicon Tags” category (previous situation).
- Fixes a bug with the Release Date column
2022-02-17
- Fixed a bug that caused MyTags to not be imported to Lexicon tags
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### Author:  [@N.D.M](https://discuss.lexicondj.com/u/N.D.M)
#### Post date: [February 5, 2022, 3:11pm UTC](https://discuss.lexicondj.com/t/lexicon-with-rekordbox-6-write-support/143/2 "2022-02-05T15:11:24Z")
Some thing regarding RB5 as well?
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### Author:  [@Christiaan](https://discuss.lexicondj.com/u/Christiaan)
#### Post date: [February 5, 2022, 4:44pm UTC](https://discuss.lexicondj.com/t/lexicon-with-rekordbox-6-write-support/143/3 "2022-02-05T16:44:02Z")
No, this is only for Rekordbox 6. RB5 is still with XML and will stay that way.
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### Author:  [@mufasa](https://discuss.lexicondj.com/u/mufasa)
#### Post date: [February 5, 2022, 7:29pm UTC](https://discuss.lexicondj.com/t/lexicon-with-rekordbox-6-write-support/143/4 "2022-02-05T19:29:29Z")
Will give this a spin tonight
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### Author:  [@Scythe](https://discuss.lexicondj.com/u/Scythe)
#### Post date: [February 7, 2022, 3:42am UTC](https://discuss.lexicondj.com/t/lexicon-with-rekordbox-6-write-support/143/5 "2022-02-07T03:42:28Z")
Not sure if this is even related to the new RB sync but on the sync screen on the new build with RB6 selected I’m seeing it constantly flicker between “Select the playlists you want to sync…” and the loading spinner. 2 seconds on one message then flickers to the other and back
Also got an error on the sync itself trying to sync my “RBSyncTest” playlist. Will upload my logs/db
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### Author:  [@Christiaan](https://discuss.lexicondj.com/u/Christiaan)
#### Post date: [February 7, 2022, 11:10am UTC](https://discuss.lexicondj.com/t/lexicon-with-rekordbox-6-write-support/143/6 "2022-02-07T11:10:56Z")
New versions in the first post with some minor fixes.
@Scythe I haven’t seen either of those 2 bugs, can you reproduce them?
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### Author:  [@Scythe](https://discuss.lexicondj.com/u/Scythe)
#### Post date: [February 7, 2022, 2:30pm UTC](https://discuss.lexicondj.com/t/lexicon-with-rekordbox-6-write-support/143/7 "2022-02-07T14:30:47Z")
Didn’t have either issue on the new build.
I synced a playlist across. I think most of these tracks had been in RB at some point previously but a couple of tracks have come across with RB not being able to load the beatgrid data (prompting to do analysis with grid force checked, unable to uncheck). That doesn’t seem normal?
I’m also not sure how I feel about the option to lump all tag categories into a single MyTag category. because that kills the AND/OR potential of MyTags when filtering a playlist (Which I’d argue should be a more common use case for MyTags given most us are now creating our intelligent playlists in LXC). Keen for others thoughts on this but I’d rather each Lexicon tag category as a unique MyTag Category and then I can just position the 4 tag catories I want to make use of for playlist filtering and smart playlists at the top of the stack (Or do this in LXC, having the 4 most important categories first).
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### Author:  [@Christiaan](https://discuss.lexicondj.com/u/Christiaan)
#### Post date: [February 7, 2022, 3:21pm UTC](https://discuss.lexicondj.com/t/lexicon-with-rekordbox-6-write-support/143/8 "2022-02-07T15:21:07Z")
If Rekordbox didn’t have the weird limitation then you’d have all your categories. I don’t really want to go through weird hoops to combine all LXC categories into 4 RB categories which would still be limiting in many scenario’s.
Can you upload your database? It’s the “We Fight” track that is problematic?
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### Author:  [@Scythe](https://discuss.lexicondj.com/u/Scythe)
#### Post date: [February 7, 2022, 4:33pm UTC](https://discuss.lexicondj.com/t/lexicon-with-rekordbox-6-write-support/143/9 "2022-02-07T16:33:08Z")
Sending a new DB copy through.
We Fight
#Tweekay14 (Samba Edit) (Gregor le DahL Edit)
Frozen (Tweekacore Flip)
Were the 3 tracks in that playlist with the missing beatgrid data.
> [@Christiaan](#):
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> If Rekordbox didn’t have the weird limitation then you’d have all your categories. I don’t really want to go through weird hoops to combine all LXC categories into 4 RB categories which would still be limiting in many scenario’s.
I’m not suggesting squishing the LXC categories down to 4 categories, I’m suggesting creating as many MyTags categories as there are LXC categories even if that exceeds 4 categories. The user can then position their 4 primary categories at the top of the MyTags Sidebar list to be used with the MyTags playlist filtering and for creating intelligent playlists in RB.
I did some testing with this and for the playlist filter tools they immediately refresh when you rearrange the MyTags folder order so you can even switch which categories you want to utilise for filtering for different use cases.
I also did some testing with creating an intelligent playlist with a MyTag from the first 4 categories and then moving that category to position 5. I did get an RB crash once when moving the categories around while viewing the playlist in question and the UI editing the intelligent playlist shows a blank red box for the ‘missing’ MyTag but the Intelligent Playlist itself still works and displays the correct tracks even when the MyTag category is moved to position 5+. But again, how many people are making intelligent playlists in RB after making the shift to Lexicon?
I guess my core argument is that the added benefits from being able to do better AND/OR combinations between tag categories in the playlist filter adds more value than having some tag categories missing. And that’s speaking as someone who has 7 primary tag categories in Lexicon. Additionally, not having the category name in every MyTag entry would look a good deal nicer and save screen real estate.
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### Author:  [@Christiaan](https://discuss.lexicondj.com/u/Christiaan)
#### Post date: [February 7, 2022, 4:39pm UTC](https://discuss.lexicondj.com/t/lexicon-with-rekordbox-6-write-support/143/10 "2022-02-07T16:39:40Z")
But when you open an intel playlist, it shows the red box which is super confusing to a user. So for me that really already blocks doing it that way. Even if it shows the right tracks in the intel playlist, that’s not really what RB is telling them. That’s confusion I can avoid and that is on the top of the list of important things. Now if Pioneer would fix this silly limitation, we’d have no problem. One can dream…
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### Author:  [@Scythe](https://discuss.lexicondj.com/u/Scythe)
#### Post date: [February 7, 2022, 5:39pm UTC](https://discuss.lexicondj.com/t/lexicon-with-rekordbox-6-write-support/143/11 "2022-02-07T17:39:02Z")
I guess, but they only see that if they are actively moving their MyTag categories around. And again, how many users are actually going to be making intelligent playlists in RB after shifting to Lexicon? I know I’m not…
I’d encourage anyone else reading this thread to share your thoughts but from my perspective, the vast majority of the Lexicon userbase either isn’t creating Intelligent playlists in RB after making the shift to Lexicon OR has 4 or fewer tag categories they make use of so it wouldn’t be an issue.
> Now if Pioneer would fix this silly limitation, we’d have no problem. One can dream…
Also, would it not be better to be set up in a way where if/when Pioneer removes the limitation no further changes are required on Lexicon? Rather than potentially needing to migrate a users MyTags information from a single category to multiple later on?
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### Author:  [@Christiaan](https://discuss.lexicondj.com/u/Christiaan)
#### Post date: [February 7, 2022, 6:52pm UTC](https://discuss.lexicondj.com/t/lexicon-with-rekordbox-6-write-support/143/12 "2022-02-07T18:52:47Z")
If Pioneer fixes this then migrating won’t be a problem, because when you re-import the merge category then it should automatically split back into all categories in Lexicon. So all I then need to do is change the code and remove the part where it merges them.
I agree that most Lexicon users will not be editing their smartlists in Rekordbox. So a notice of this limitation could work but I really hate that the field is empty in RB with a red warning, even though the user is doing nothing wrong.
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### Author:  [@mufasa](https://discuss.lexicondj.com/u/mufasa)
#### Post date: [February 7, 2022, 9:19pm UTC](https://discuss.lexicondj.com/t/lexicon-with-rekordbox-6-write-support/143/13 "2022-02-07T21:19:48Z")
Since Lexicon tag came into the picture, I stopped using rekordbox completely. I was only using it for the mytag feature.
I did try my 75k library and it synced over with the quickness …great job @Christiaan …you knocked this one outta the park…now i dont know what else to request 😅
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### Author:  [@Scythe](https://discuss.lexicondj.com/u/Scythe)
#### Post date: [February 8, 2022, 3:50am UTC](https://discuss.lexicondj.com/t/lexicon-with-rekordbox-6-write-support/143/14 "2022-02-08T03:50:31Z")
> I agree that most Lexicon users will not be editing their smartlists in Rekordbox. So a notice of this limitation could work but I really hate that the field is empty in RB with a red warning, even though the user is doing nothing wrong.
Sorry, I’m gonna keep drilling on this point but I hate the idea of handicapping the (in my opinion) best part of MyTags in order to prevent an issue with an RB feature that most users won’t even touch because LXC already has a superior implementation.
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### Author:  [@DJDemby](https://discuss.lexicondj.com/u/DJDemby)
#### Post date: [February 9, 2022, 9:07pm UTC](https://discuss.lexicondj.com/t/lexicon-with-rekordbox-6-write-support/143/15 "2022-02-09T21:07:48Z")
any updates with the waveform showing up on the deck?
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### Author:  [@Christiaan](https://discuss.lexicondj.com/u/Christiaan)
#### Post date: [February 9, 2022, 9:20pm UTC](https://discuss.lexicondj.com/t/lexicon-with-rekordbox-6-write-support/143/16 "2022-02-09T21:20:46Z")
Lexicon can’t add a waveform, you have to analyze in RB for that. I don’t know how it works on a device though but I don’t think they can analyze right?
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### Author:  [@Christiaan](https://discuss.lexicondj.com/u/Christiaan)
#### Post date: [February 10, 2022, 6:49pm UTC](https://discuss.lexicondj.com/t/lexicon-with-rekordbox-6-write-support/143/17 "2022-02-10T18:49:15Z")
New test builds in the first post, few minor fixes and stability improvements.
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### Author:  [@mufasa](https://discuss.lexicondj.com/u/mufasa)
#### Post date: [February 14, 2022, 12:13pm UTC](https://discuss.lexicondj.com/t/lexicon-with-rekordbox-6-write-support/143/18 "2022-02-14T12:13:17Z")
When going from RB6 to LXC do we still need to do XML export in RB6?
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### Author:  [@Christiaan](https://discuss.lexicondj.com/u/Christiaan)
#### Post date: [February 14, 2022, 1:17pm UTC](https://discuss.lexicondj.com/t/lexicon-with-rekordbox-6-write-support/143/19 "2022-02-14T13:17:32Z")
No, you can complete forget the XML when using these builds. XML is only for RB5 now.
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### Author:  [@skipperlappen](https://discuss.lexicondj.com/u/skipperlappen)
#### Post date: [February 16, 2022, 4:03pm UTC](https://discuss.lexicondj.com/t/lexicon-with-rekordbox-6-write-support/143/20 "2022-02-16T16:03:19Z")
Hi, trying out the sync functionality with RB6, and so far it looks great 🙂
One thing though, is the “Release Date” gets broken.
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