# Tidal tracks being removed from Engine playlists after sync from Lexicon **URL:** \ **Category:** Bug Reports\ **Tags:** engine-dj\ **Created:** [July 7, 2024, 10:58pm UTC](https://discuss.lexicondj.com/t/tidal-tracks-being-removed-from-engine-playlists-after-sync-from-lexicon/2490 "2024-07-07T22:58:35Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 13\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![southpaw0208](https://discuss.lexicondj.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/bc79bd/32.png) [@southpaw0208](https://discuss.lexicondj.com/u/southpaw0208)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2024, 10:58pm UTC](https://discuss.lexicondj.com/t/tidal-tracks-being-removed-from-engine-playlists-after-sync-from-lexicon/2490/1 "2024-07-07T22:58:35Z")
Please fill in this bug report template: **Lexicon version** : … 1.6.16 **Operating system (remove one)**: Windows **Bug description** : If I have a playlist containing Tidal tracks and mp3s (either a pre-existing Engine playlist, or a brand new Lexicon playlist), then after syncing to Engine, the playlist only contains the mp3 tracks; all Tidal tracks are missing from the playlist. Note the Tidal track(s) still exists in my Engine collection and other playlists it/they are already in. It’s only the synced playlist they disappear from. If I make a change to one of the Tidal tracks in the Lexicon playlist (e.g. change its rating) and re-sync, then the rating of the track in the collection (and other playlists) _is_ correctly updated, but the track is still missing from the synced playlist. Engine library is on version 4.0 **Step by step to reproduce** : **Screenshot** : Here I’ve created a new playlist in Lexicon, and added 1 mp3 and 1 Tidal track to it: ![Screenshot 2024-07-07 231310_01_New-Playlist-In-Lexicon](https://d2jjm7r6i2krmb.cloudfront.net/original/2X/5/5e7154c8fa9107770d1803058d0a850e46a67294.png) Now sync. ![Screenshot 2024-07-07 231935_02_New-Playllist-In-Engine-Missing-Tidal-Track](https://d2jjm7r6i2krmb.cloudfront.net/original/2X/8/803342625267c098bebb61806e51b78d85326ee0.png) ^ The playlist has been created in Engine, but the Tidal track is missing from it. ![Screenshot 2024-07-07 232136_03_Captain-Qwark-Tidal-Track-Still-In-Engine-Collection](https://d2jjm7r6i2krmb.cloudfront.net/original/2X/2/20920415331cae4c93db32803c2a2c7967292809.png) ^ But Tidal track still exists in Engine collection. ![Screenshot 2024-07-07 232302_04-Add-Ratings-In-Lexicon](https://d2jjm7r6i2krmb.cloudfront.net/original/2X/7/7297d4835ce2a99afc11e638f9e0fb5c1bf26e1d.png) ^ Rating added in Lexicon ![Screenshot 2024-07-07 232400_05-Syncing](https://d2jjm7r6i2krmb.cloudfront.net/original/2X/e/eeb6224fdfe1b403f23aadebf4b8ff7ec96f6cc7.png) ^ Syncing. Note I don’t have any field mappings configured. ![Screenshot 2024-07-07 232456_06-Post-sync-mp3-track-has-new-rating](https://d2jjm7r6i2krmb.cloudfront.net/original/2X/3/3292b392535321f22935f4df13b3359572a849da.png) ^ Post 2nd sync, the mp3 track has new rating ![Screenshot 2024-07-07 232548_07-post-sync-tidal-track-has-new-rating](https://d2jjm7r6i2krmb.cloudfront.net/original/2X/9/9dff7e83378add5d2b94003afd0f911950bceb6e.png) ^ Post 2nd sync the Tidal track also has picked up the new rating (but is still missing from playlist). Note: In the above example this was a new playlist I created in Lexion. I also had a pre-existing Engine playlist which contained ~5 mps and ~5 Tidal tracks. I applied a rating to one of the Tidal tracks in Lexicon, but after syncing the Engine playlist had lost _all_ the Tidal tracks, and only contained the 5 mp3 tracks. The Tidal tracks still exist in my collection, and the rating had been applied/updated to the Tidal track. ---
**Author:** ![Christiaan](https://discuss.lexicondj.com/user_avatar/discuss.lexicondj.com/christiaan/32/10_2.png) [@Christiaan](https://discuss.lexicondj.com/u/Christiaan)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2024, 6:58am UTC](https://discuss.lexicondj.com/t/tidal-tracks-being-removed-from-engine-playlists-after-sync-from-lexicon/2490/2 "2024-07-08T06:58:07Z")
I think it’s because Engine desktop doesn’t actually support Tidal tracks. Or at least that was the case some time ago. It looks like maybe Engine does somewhat support them now, only to display them. I’ll have to look into how that works nowadays and get out an update for it. ---
**Author:** ![southpaw0208](https://discuss.lexicondj.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/bc79bd/32.png) [@southpaw0208](https://discuss.lexicondj.com/u/southpaw0208)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2024, 7:37am UTC](https://discuss.lexicondj.com/t/tidal-tracks-being-removed-from-engine-playlists-after-sync-from-lexicon/2490/3 "2024-07-08T07:37:50Z")
Hi Christian - thanks for the super-prompt response. Engine Desktop doesn’t support the _playback_ of Tidal tracks, but it definitely displays them in your collection and playlists. ---
**Author:** ![Christiaan](https://discuss.lexicondj.com/user_avatar/discuss.lexicondj.com/christiaan/32/10_2.png) [@Christiaan](https://discuss.lexicondj.com/u/Christiaan)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2024, 3:26pm UTC](https://discuss.lexicondj.com/t/tidal-tracks-being-removed-from-engine-playlists-after-sync-from-lexicon/2490/4 "2024-07-09T15:26:46Z")
This is fixed in todays beta update 👍 You can find the beta on Discord in #beta-changelog ---
**Author:** ![southpaw0208](https://discuss.lexicondj.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/bc79bd/32.png) [@southpaw0208](https://discuss.lexicondj.com/u/southpaw0208)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2024, 4:09pm UTC](https://discuss.lexicondj.com/t/tidal-tracks-being-removed-from-engine-playlists-after-sync-from-lexicon/2490/5 "2024-07-09T16:09:45Z")
That’s amazing! I’ll download it, give it a try, and report back 😀 ---
**Author:** ![southpaw0208](https://discuss.lexicondj.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/bc79bd/32.png) [@southpaw0208](https://discuss.lexicondj.com/u/southpaw0208)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2024, 8:56am UTC](https://discuss.lexicondj.com/t/tidal-tracks-being-removed-from-engine-playlists-after-sync-from-lexicon/2490/6 "2024-07-10T08:56:27Z")
Hi @Christiaan, I’ve installed beta build 1.6.106, and I’m afraid the same bug behaviour is present for me, and doesn’t appear to have been fixed, sorry. Happy to provide further info or files if that can be of assistance. ---
**Author:** ![Christiaan](https://discuss.lexicondj.com/user_avatar/discuss.lexicondj.com/christiaan/32/10_2.png) [@Christiaan](https://discuss.lexicondj.com/u/Christiaan)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2024, 12:48pm UTC](https://discuss.lexicondj.com/t/tidal-tracks-being-removed-from-engine-playlists-after-sync-from-lexicon/2490/7 "2024-07-10T12:48:21Z")
Can you try with an empty Engine database? You can delete or rename this folder for that: `Music/Engine Library/Database2` Then start Engine and close it to get an empty database. ---
**Author:** ![southpaw0208](https://discuss.lexicondj.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/bc79bd/32.png) [@southpaw0208](https://discuss.lexicondj.com/u/southpaw0208)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2024, 6:32pm UTC](https://discuss.lexicondj.com/t/tidal-tracks-being-removed-from-engine-playlists-after-sync-from-lexicon/2490/8 "2024-07-10T18:32:50Z")
Thanks @Christiaan - good suggestion on trying an empty database. 👍 It’s been a partial success: - I was able to synchronise a playlist from Lexicon to Engine containing Tidal tracks, and the Tidal tracks (along with metadata changes to Rating and Genre) were synced to Engine and appeared in the Engine playlist - yay! - However, one small part isn’t quite right: Engine playlists are in a tree hierarchy, and parent notes display the aggregate view of the child playlists beneath them. In this case the parent nodes did not show the Tidal tracks that had been synced into the child playlist. ---
**Author:** ![Christiaan](https://discuss.lexicondj.com/user_avatar/discuss.lexicondj.com/christiaan/32/10_2.png) [@Christiaan](https://discuss.lexicondj.com/u/Christiaan)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2024, 6:53am UTC](https://discuss.lexicondj.com/t/tidal-tracks-being-removed-from-engine-playlists-after-sync-from-lexicon/2490/9 "2024-07-11T06:53:37Z")
Thanks, I’ll check that too ---
**Author:** ![Christiaan](https://discuss.lexicondj.com/user_avatar/discuss.lexicondj.com/christiaan/32/10_2.png) [@Christiaan](https://discuss.lexicondj.com/u/Christiaan)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2024, 12:54pm UTC](https://discuss.lexicondj.com/t/tidal-tracks-being-removed-from-engine-playlists-after-sync-from-lexicon/2490/10 "2024-07-12T12:54:21Z")
Did you parent folder already exist maybe? I just tested it here but had no problem, with an empty Engine database ---
**Author:** ![Christiaan](https://discuss.lexicondj.com/user_avatar/discuss.lexicondj.com/christiaan/32/10_2.png) [@Christiaan](https://discuss.lexicondj.com/u/Christiaan)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2024, 1:03pm UTC](https://discuss.lexicondj.com/t/tidal-tracks-being-removed-from-engine-playlists-after-sync-from-lexicon/2490/11 "2024-07-12T13:03:24Z")
Actually likely the reason is because parent folders only get their child tracks added when you do a `Full Sync`. ---
**Author:** ![southpaw0208](https://discuss.lexicondj.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/bc79bd/32.png) [@southpaw0208](https://discuss.lexicondj.com/u/southpaw0208)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2024, 10:31am UTC](https://discuss.lexicondj.com/t/tidal-tracks-being-removed-from-engine-playlists-after-sync-from-lexicon/2490/12 "2024-07-13T10:31:24Z")
That makes sense. I’m going to do a full sync from my Lexicon library to a new Engine library this morning and will report back. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://discuss.lexicondj.com/uploads/default/original/1X/2852b0522290d8aface3d14f693a724cf3adf786.png) [@system](https://discuss.lexicondj.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2024, 10:32am UTC](https://discuss.lexicondj.com/t/tidal-tracks-being-removed-from-engine-playlists-after-sync-from-lexicon/2490/13 "2024-08-12T10:32:23Z")
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