What is the feature or ability you would like to have?
I’m wrapping my head around this function in Lexicon, Rekordbox, Serato and i came to a conclusion.
Existing “Smartlist functions” are way of from beeing logical (IMO)
Atm you need to add a new rule per “item” (f.e. artist)
=> can’t it be easier if you enter your artist names in 1 rule separate them with a “;”
Rule 1: my selection of artists
Rule 2: in the resulting selection of artists made by Rule 1 i now chose the genre “d&b Roller” (these artists have also breaks & halfstep music… but for this list i want only rolling d&b tunes…)
Rule 3: in the resulting selection of Rule 2 i want only the tunes that have a bpm between 174 and 176
Wouldn’t it be a handy feature to activate a box on a rule so it’s result is based on the result of the previous rule?
when you mark that selectionbox the green arrow appears as well.
to complete the functionality: also the ability to drag the made rules to another location in the list to change the following order (like you can do with playlists)
How will this feature help you and others?
The user is now able to create more specific smartlists
Is this feature available in an existing product? If so, what product?
Not like this.
Does a workaround currently exist?
Manualy do a search of artists drag them to a list and filter & delete in that list
I agree with the mutliple values in one rule, but this may not be easy to implement.
For the results, have you tried with the match option set to ‘all rules’ rather than ‘any rule’ as shown in your images, this should give you what you want as all rules need to be matched
This is the classic AND/OR problem here… I have chosen (just like all DJ apps) to go for the “easy” way where you can only set all rules to AND or all rules to OR.
What you want is basically nesting of rules where you could do something like this:
if (x OR y) AND (q OR w)
I’ve chosen not to go that way for simplicity’s sake.
Maybe I can think of an addition to the smartlist rules that would help with this but I’m keeping it simple for now. This is a fairly advanced way of using smartlists, most users don’t do this.
Just putting in another plug/request for nesting rules. PLEASE PLEASE implement this even if it is a simplistic version of it.
Specifically for me, I have a “compatible key” folder of smartlists. The rules for the smartlists inside it are all set up for “any rule” and list out the compatible keys. As such, they show EVERYTHING in my library! Good for alot of people, but useless if I am in the middle of a set and looking for a DANCE song that will work in key.
What I want to do is add a rule that forces the smartlist to only look in my dance floor crate(s)/folder(s). This way I can ignore all of the ceremony/filler/non-wedding dance songs that just clutter up the list and make it FAR longer than it should be.
My thought is you could create a “poor man’s” nested logic where you divide the rules popup into two sections. One section is “all rules” and the second section is “any rule”. This way I could add the rules that it must follow in the top “all rules” section then add the rules that are in an OR configuration in the bottom section. There are obvious limitations to that in the standard nested logic sense, but I think this type of approach would satisfy all of the more advanced users. I very much struggle to find a case where having full nested functionality within smartlists would be needed. Keep it limited to the:
IF AND(A, B, …, E, OR(Z, Y, Z)) use case and you would be golden!
Unfortunately, as is it this list of music in compatible keys is not very useful
I think you can get very far with setting up the right tags on your tracks. Then you can use rules like “has any of these tags” and “has all of these tags”, combined with the key you want.
And you can also use the “In Playlist → In Smartlist” rule. In the other smartlist you can set it to All Rule while in the new smartlist you can set it to Any Rule. That effectively gives you the freedom you described
I am trying to use the second option of creating an “in playlist folder” rule combined with the “in smartlist” rule and it is not working. Because of how my library is organized, this would be the easiest way to get to what I need, however, the “ok” button is greyed out and I can’t proceed.
Sorry for the delay in responding. Was out of town and just slammed so just now getting back to some of this.
Yes, both playlists exist. Re-selecting does nothing for the exact combination I need.
This just seems to be “buggy” for lack of better words. I played around with it for a while and could not find any sets of combinations that seemed to lock it out specifically. Occasionally, re-selected did work, but rarely and it seemed pretty randomly as well.
Got it, thanks. Looks like a bug in the In playlist folder operator. Next update will fix this, or if you want it sooner, the next beta update will fix it too (coming tomorrow or the day after)
If i need multiple Artists (multiple values) could the be added by using a ’ ; ’ ?
I would love to use the smartlist feature but atm it’s just not doin’ the job.
Rule1
Field: ARTIST
Operator: CONTAINS
Value: artistname; artistname; artistname; artistname
Following Rule (this rule is doin’ it’s magic on the result of rule1)
Field: BPM
Operator: BETWEEN
Value: lowest bpm
Value: highest bpm
Don’t know if this is possible to assign the " ; " as a separator in the value string to give it more accuracy.
atm the work-around is making smartlists PER artist and merging those later on…
Not to be a nag @Christiaan .
Just stating some ideas. As usual, must be said, you’ve already done a remarkable job with this whole app!!
The issue with that, in my opinion, is that the data already exists in its present form and in individual fields without the additional step of tagging and trying to make sure to tag new tracks that come in.
Personally I do not use tags, and prefer a playlist organizational structure. There is already a folder containing all my dance floor music and there is already key information in each track. For the others, there is already BPM data as well as artist data.
I’m speaking mostly for myself but also I think for some of these people who commented here: Our request is to more efficiently use the data already present than to switch our entire workflow or add on the task of trying to remember to tag all the new tracks that come in or to go back through and have to bulk tag a library. You make it easy to bulk tag, so props to you for that in a big way, but it is still a major investment in time to get it all tagged and set up for our specific needs and to ensure tagging is correct when we bring in new music.
A slightly more robust smart list rules structure would solve this. In the pop up have one section that is for rules combine with AND. Then have a second section for all the rules that are combined with OR.
